Wind momenta from the analysis by Puls et al. (2006) (open symbols) compared to our consistent wind dynamics (filled symbols). These latest mass loss determinations, accounting for enhanced Hα emission from wind clumping, do not indicate systematically higher mass loss rates for supergiants anymore. The dashed line is a simple linear fit to our predicted values, and has a shallower slope than the relation predicted by Vink et al. (2000) (cf. Fig. 12).